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Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by Urbanite on 7/26/05 at 2:13pm
Time to spread the word on NAKED SHORT SELLING FOR SUNDAY NIGHT
Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
www.antandsons.com/blogger.html
Ant & Sons has confirmed, through various sources, that the story on Stockgate, otherwise known as the naked short selling scandal, has now been scheduled to air on Sunday July 31. Dateline airs at 7:00pm EST and at 6:00pm CMT. The last time Dateline producer Sharon Hoffman confirmed the show's airing on national television was on April 10. Just four days before the American people would learn the truth on how millions of investors have been bilked in a massive "stock counterfeiting" scam, with the possible aide of gross negligence by the SEC, DTCC and NASD, the show was postponed again. Apparently, NBC thought that 'American Idol' star Ruben Studdard and Clay Aiken were more important. With fingers crossed, many investors who have been plagued by this scandal are hoping to have the air date stick.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by Vinny on 7/26/05 at 2:18pm
I don't understand why people are making such a big deal about this stockgate show? Does anyone actually think it will make a difference? It will be aired and it will be forgotten within days....to much hype over nothing.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by Urbanite on 7/26/05 at 2:20pm
Many people would say..wow big deal, its just a tv show. However, look how long it has taken for NBC to roll this out, probably with much scrutiny from the DTC, et all. With the growing outcry for this to be publicized and the situation to be fixed, there is a reason to celebreate.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by jimmythree on 7/26/05 at 2:20pm
Good news. Can't wait to see. I hope it's not too watered down by now. Watch for investor paranoia to be a part of the final version, but I hope not.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by spaz on 7/26/05 at 2:23pm
It would be great if they had some CMKX coverage, but I'm not holding my breath. This kind of coverage would be just the thing Senator Sarbanes team was asking for, i.e. mainstream media coverage.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by Abby52 on 7/26/05 at 2:30pm
7/26/05 at 2:18pm, Vinny wrote:I don't understand why people are making such a big deal about this stockgate show? Does anyone actually think it will make a difference? It will be aired and it will be forgotten within days....to much hype over nothing.
Not a big deal? Too much hype over nothing? How can you think that?
"It's been called the biggest financial scandal in the history of the world, with incurred losses estimated by some experts at well over $1 trillion dollars. It's a scandal that involves over 1,200 offshore hedge funds, over 150 US brokers, and has already bankrupted over 7,000 US companies in the past six years. According to many of the lawsuits filed to date, the crooks include terrorist groups and organized crime syndicates."
www.faulkingtruth.com/Articles/Investing101/1035.html
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by Alwayslearning on 7/26/05 at 2:56pm
I'll watch it for sure!!
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by GTAJim on 7/26/05 at 3:11pm
Don't get your hopes up. They might only be doing this because of march on friday. They may cancel after crowd leaves.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by questionstooo on 7/26/05 at 3:12pm
7/26/05 at 2:18pm, Vinny wrote:I don't understand why people are making such a big deal about this stockgate show? Does anyone actually think it will make a difference? It will be aired and it will be forgotten within days....to much hype over nothing.
It takes only one person in the right place at the write time to be able to start a change. If you believe this program will have no effect, then you do not know how much power is inherent in television productions. Television defines ideology to a very broad audience.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by gusjarvis on 7/26/05 at 3:12pm
it will be interesting to see if it was watered down, I expect it to be very vanilla after all this.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by blingbling on 7/26/05 at 3:51pm
This will be a difficult show to produce. The topic is a bit mind numbing and visual interest will be a challenge.
The headline is a good one though and if they can keep it simple enough to understand, it may start the way for a fix.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by junkyard71 on 7/26/05 at 3:54pm
i'll offer 1000 to 1 odds that what airs is watered down as to be useless...
it's sad...
junk
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by SuzyQ on 7/26/05 at 3:58pm
I truly hope this gets air time! It is long over due.
Personally I hope that the show lets the American public realize a few facts that until recently I didn't know and have asked many people the following:
1. Who is the DTCC? Who owns them? Who runs them?
2. Ditto for the fed reserve.....
It is amazing the things you think you know, until such as this, which serves to
open you eyes to much that becomes very disturbing and troubling...
leaving you with more questions than answers.
Regards,
SuzyQ
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by pheenix11 on 7/26/05 at 5:46pm
Don't hold your breath
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by 100carat on 7/26/05 at 5:52pm
Huh? I was really looking forward to seeing how they covered this story. Then, I looked up Dateline for 31 Jul 05 on the Yahoo TV Listings. They are usually very accurate and better than the newspaper. According to the Yahoo TV listing, it says the show originally aired on January 1st, 2000.
tinyurl.com/bq4vq
Anybody find this a little strange?
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by bkeepa on 7/26/05 at 6:01pm
7/26/05 at 2:18pm, Vinny wrote:I don't understand why people are making such a big deal about this stockgate show? Does anyone actually think it will make a difference? It will be aired and it will be forgotten within days....to much hype over nothing.
Vinny ... if you want to understand why people are making a big deal about counterfeit shares read the attached email sent to the SEC in response to their invitation for input. The author is a consultant to MANY victim companies like CMKX.
www.sec.gov/rules/proposed/s72303/decosta122203.htm
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by bh on 7/26/05 at 6:02pm
7/26/05 at 2:18pm, Vinny wrote:I don't understand why people are making such a big deal about this stockgate show? Does anyone actually think it will make a difference? It will be aired and it will be forgotten within days....to much hype over nothing.
We'll soon find out. I can't imagine them doing anything that would give the sec a bad name so if it is on I expect it to be totally neutral about everything.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by Urbanite on 7/26/05 at 7:11pm
I dont want to pose this question...but what are the chances of it being rescheduled again??
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by Starlight on 7/26/05 at 7:11pm
Dear BlingBling,
This show IS already produced but has been postponed
at least 4-5 times already....!!
It was initially supposed to be aired last year before the
Presidential election and that got nipped in the bud....
A challenge to produce visually....??
I know that Dateline has interviewed quite a few people
for this show including billionaire Houston attorney, John O'Quinn,
who has been also working on a major lawsuit regarding NSS....
This national exposure has been long overdue....
It will start a "snowball effect"!!!
Once Pandora's Box has been finally opened for the
entire world to see there will be no turning back.....
The momentum will build and build until some sort of
resolution is reached.....!!!
Resolution Day is Nearing....!!!
Starlight
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by joesixpack on 7/26/05 at 7:43pm
7/26/05 at 2:20pm, Urbanite wrote:Many people would say..wow big deal, its just a tv show. However, look how long it has taken for NBC to roll this out, probably with much scrutiny from the DTC, et all. With the growing outcry for this to be publicized and the situation to be fixed, there is a reason to celebreate.
I'll bet my 6 pack that it has been doctored to heck with the meat cut out and the bottom line is going to be...
"A little NSS is good for the market.. after all me must protect the investors... "
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by royalstaroflion on 7/26/05 at 9:03pm
I want this story to aired as much as the next guy , but have any of you taken into consideration the ramifications of the Stockgate scandal ? Unless I miss my guess , it could create a sell off in the markets .
The timing of which could be lousy for us . I'm just thinking out loud here guys . My feeling is something is
going to happen with CMKX very soon .
Say this stock hits in the next month or so . About the same time the scandal airs , who is going to be dong any buying ? The big boys maybe , some investors who don't get the news , but my feeling is this bad news will spread Like a wild fie in the west .
Hope I'm right on the part about CMKX , not sure about
the market part .
I would like some input on this please .
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by kranker on 7/26/05 at 9:24pm
7/26/05 at 5:46pm, pheenix11 wrote:Don't hold your breath
Have you checked out this thread yet?
cmkxdiamond.proboards32.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1122391668
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by kranker on 7/26/05 at 9:31pm
7/26/05 at 6:01pm, bkeepa wrote:
www.sec.gov/rules/proposed/s72303/decosta122203.htm
Sounds familiar,
"As long as no participants at the DTCC "rock the boat" and buy-in any of these debts from their co-participants, then all will be fine. Now you can see why the DTCC, when faced with an issuer distributing a 100% share distribution, doesn't force those that owe it shares to level up their accounts before the dividend record date like any other creditor would. Instead it tells its participants/debtors, itself basically, that you don't have to pay your debt because of this dividend, we'll just start up a new IOU for the dividend shares and place it right next to your old unpaid debt. When the debtors ask, "But what shall we tell the investors on their monthly brokerage statements?" The reply is to just tell those naive investors that their dividend shares arrived from the Transfer Agent safely, and since we hold them in an anonymous "pooled" format, they'll never know the difference! So what, in essence, are the shareholders really buying since these bogus electronic book entries don't have the rights attached to shares? They're buying the "right" to sell these bogus electronic book entries to some other naive sap that senses a bargain since the price is so cheap."
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by kranker on 7/26/05 at 9:35pm
7/26/05 at 6:01pm, bkeepa wrote:
www.sec.gov/rules/proposed/s72303/decosta122203.htm
He called it to a tee, 18 months before SHO began,
"I don't think that we really have to remind you of this fact but just in case, please be aware that as Regulation SHO implementation approaches, a lot of the "open positions" currently at the DTCC are going to "sprout wings" and fly into the "in-house proprietary accounts" of the perpetrators of this fraud as well as to "in house" accounts of the offshore non-NASD broker/dealers. This will be effected via wash sales and matched trades just like in all of the "death spiral" version of naked short selling cases. "
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by Captain "PR" on 7/26/05 at 9:35pm
Lets do something to get some massive attention on naked shorting not just small little dinky e-mails and calling officials. we need to do something that will get noticed NON-criminal of course. what can get major exposer and make people rememeber it?
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by kranker on 7/26/05 at 9:44pm
Q&A from another board. The poster has a good basic question that many will ask,
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quote:Posted - 07/18/2005 : 20:56:41
Originally posted by cookie12
Kranker, why is the media not onto this story in a major way? Please answer this.
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Cookie,
The reasons are many and I won't pretend to know them all. The other members have certainly posted several valid reasons, in my opinion.
Further, major corporations own the major media. The major corporations are tied at the hip with the major financial institutions that they rely upon for...you guessed it...financing to operate their businesses. Moreover, the major corporations rely on the major financial institutions for promotion of their businesses and by association, promotion and sale of their stock.
For NBC, parent company GE, to withhold a broadcast that exposes criminal activity of their underwriters or sponsors (whatever the possibility), just makes perfect sense when you think about it. And since the NBC Dateline "Stockgate" story is being "re-edited", count on the smoking gun to point offshore first to some far-away, untouchable, evil foreign entity not related to GE or their partners in any way whatsoever. Someone else will need to find the courage to finger US financial institutions that facilitate stock counterfeiting by allowing global criminals to commit crimes under cloak of our "respected financial institutions". Make no mistake though, exposing some far-away,offshore, evil, foreign entity is a good start and useful to our cause if it just gets the ball rolling for the inevitable "pile-on" that the media is so well noted for.
Did I mention, GE is one of the largest financial services corporations in the world?
tinyurl.com/b8jj3
Let's move to television advertising revenues. Why would NBC incriminate their advertisers (insert any bank, brokerage house, investment firm here) ? You expose these entities and they stop advertising with you, PERIOD!
Let's not concentrate too much on NBC though. True, NBC has withheld their story for over 18 months. However, the other major networks are not taking the heat, only because they managed to keep the lid on it and never allowed their producers to commence work reporting and exposing electronic stock counterfeiting.
This single thread, on this single board, contains links to enough evidence to prove this crime. I understand your question of why? As you can tell now, it's all very simple.
The information above is all my opinion.
-kranker
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by BrainDamage on 7/26/05 at 9:56pm
I'm expecting it to be cancelled/re-scheduled/pre-empted by more important stories (like the life story of the 3rd place finisher of Gilligan's Island last season...and no, I don't watch it, lol).
So if I turn it on and they actually air the Stockgate piece, I'll be pleasantly surprised rather than bitterly disappinted like I was last time...
-BD
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by royalstaroflion on 7/26/05 at 10:12pm
I appreciate Kranker and BrainDamaged posts always ,
but no one has answered my question yet .
If the blame go's to shadowy off shore entities fine ,but
don't you think this could still result in a sell off ?
The timing of which could effect our ability to sell .
Ok this is putting the cart before the horse , but don't any of you think this is a legitimate concern ?
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by kranker on 7/26/05 at 10:47pm
7/26/05 at 10:12pm, royalstaroflion wrote:don't you think this could still result in a sell off ?
Sure, but not of CMKX
Quote:The timing of which could effect our ability to sell .
Are you talking about CMKX? You can't be serious about our ability to sell CMKX are you?
Quote:Ok this is putting the cart before the horse , but don't any of you think this is a legitimate concern ?
If Dateline tells the truth, yes, it could affect things. But we don't have a clue what Dateline is going to show, IF they even show anything.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by archangle on 7/26/05 at 10:52pm
It is good news but i'll believe it when i see it.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by teehuot on 7/26/05 at 11:23pm
at this point i will say "it just another disappointed date"
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by Squirrel on 7/26/05 at 11:26pm
Holding breath....
<Flailing tail>
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by Stone Crusher on 7/26/05 at 11:52pm
Dammint Vinny! How many times have I told you not to use your mob name on the boards.
7/26/05 at 2:18pm, Vinny wrote:I don't understand why people are making such a big deal about this stockgate show? Does anyone actually think it will make a difference? It will be aired and it will be forgotten within days....to much hype over nothing.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by funado on 7/27/05 at 4:36am
I hope someone will record this. I'm in Japan and won't be able to see it. I'd be happy to pay expenses if someone could tape it and send it to me.
If anyone thinks they can do this, please PM me.
TIA,
Funado
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by glenmarangie0 on 7/27/05 at 7:56am
Here is a question to all. If this does air who do you think gave it the green light i.e put the pressure on ? and why do you think it is being allowed to be aired ?
We already know that the DTCC was instrumental in getting it pulled the last time.
The SEC wouldn't want it to air as it it could implement them in a cover-up or at least make them look as if they are on the side of the bad guys.
Date-line(GE) wouldn't make the decision on their own as they could make to many high powered enemies.
Just curious to everyones thoughts. Could there be higher powers (areas of government) that played a part ?
Who knows, just bouncing.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by bunnyb on 7/27/05 at 8:26am
I can see it now.The sec answering questions about how they 'SAVED' future investors from the big bad pink sheet stocks and plans for a future in which only select brokerages can trade pink. {MM} GOODBYE NEW INNOVATION IN AMERICA !
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by Urbanite on 7/27/05 at 11:55am
Of course, they will try and save their own faces and redeem themselves.
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Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by Urbanite on 7/26/05 at 2:13pm
Time to spread the word on NAKED SHORT SELLING FOR SUNDAY NIGHT
Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
www.antandsons.com/blogger.html
Ant & Sons has confirmed, through various sources, that the story on Stockgate, otherwise known as the naked short selling scandal, has now been scheduled to air on Sunday July 31. Dateline airs at 7:00pm EST and at 6:00pm CMT. The last time Dateline producer Sharon Hoffman confirmed the show's airing on national television was on April 10. Just four days before the American people would learn the truth on how millions of investors have been bilked in a massive "stock counterfeiting" scam, with the possible aide of gross negligence by the SEC, DTCC and NASD, the show was postponed again. Apparently, NBC thought that 'American Idol' star Ruben Studdard and Clay Aiken were more important. With fingers crossed, many investors who have been plagued by this scandal are hoping to have the air date stick.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by Vinny on 7/26/05 at 2:18pm
I don't understand why people are making such a big deal about this stockgate show? Does anyone actually think it will make a difference? It will be aired and it will be forgotten within days....to much hype over nothing.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by Urbanite on 7/26/05 at 2:20pm
Many people would say..wow big deal, its just a tv show. However, look how long it has taken for NBC to roll this out, probably with much scrutiny from the DTC, et all. With the growing outcry for this to be publicized and the situation to be fixed, there is a reason to celebreate.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by jimmythree on 7/26/05 at 2:20pm
Good news. Can't wait to see. I hope it's not too watered down by now. Watch for investor paranoia to be a part of the final version, but I hope not.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by spaz on 7/26/05 at 2:23pm
It would be great if they had some CMKX coverage, but I'm not holding my breath. This kind of coverage would be just the thing Senator Sarbanes team was asking for, i.e. mainstream media coverage.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by Abby52 on 7/26/05 at 2:30pm
7/26/05 at 2:18pm, Vinny wrote:I don't understand why people are making such a big deal about this stockgate show? Does anyone actually think it will make a difference? It will be aired and it will be forgotten within days....to much hype over nothing.
Not a big deal? Too much hype over nothing? How can you think that?
"It's been called the biggest financial scandal in the history of the world, with incurred losses estimated by some experts at well over $1 trillion dollars. It's a scandal that involves over 1,200 offshore hedge funds, over 150 US brokers, and has already bankrupted over 7,000 US companies in the past six years. According to many of the lawsuits filed to date, the crooks include terrorist groups and organized crime syndicates."
www.faulkingtruth.com/Articles/Investing101/1035.html
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by Alwayslearning on 7/26/05 at 2:56pm
I'll watch it for sure!!
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by GTAJim on 7/26/05 at 3:11pm
Don't get your hopes up. They might only be doing this because of march on friday. They may cancel after crowd leaves.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by questionstooo on 7/26/05 at 3:12pm
7/26/05 at 2:18pm, Vinny wrote:I don't understand why people are making such a big deal about this stockgate show? Does anyone actually think it will make a difference? It will be aired and it will be forgotten within days....to much hype over nothing.
It takes only one person in the right place at the write time to be able to start a change. If you believe this program will have no effect, then you do not know how much power is inherent in television productions. Television defines ideology to a very broad audience.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by gusjarvis on 7/26/05 at 3:12pm
it will be interesting to see if it was watered down, I expect it to be very vanilla after all this.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by blingbling on 7/26/05 at 3:51pm
This will be a difficult show to produce. The topic is a bit mind numbing and visual interest will be a challenge.
The headline is a good one though and if they can keep it simple enough to understand, it may start the way for a fix.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by junkyard71 on 7/26/05 at 3:54pm
i'll offer 1000 to 1 odds that what airs is watered down as to be useless...
it's sad...
junk
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by SuzyQ on 7/26/05 at 3:58pm
I truly hope this gets air time! It is long over due.
Personally I hope that the show lets the American public realize a few facts that until recently I didn't know and have asked many people the following:
1. Who is the DTCC? Who owns them? Who runs them?
2. Ditto for the fed reserve.....
It is amazing the things you think you know, until such as this, which serves to
open you eyes to much that becomes very disturbing and troubling...
leaving you with more questions than answers.
Regards,
SuzyQ
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by pheenix11 on 7/26/05 at 5:46pm
Don't hold your breath
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by 100carat on 7/26/05 at 5:52pm
Huh? I was really looking forward to seeing how they covered this story. Then, I looked up Dateline for 31 Jul 05 on the Yahoo TV Listings. They are usually very accurate and better than the newspaper. According to the Yahoo TV listing, it says the show originally aired on January 1st, 2000.
tinyurl.com/bq4vq
Anybody find this a little strange?
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by bkeepa on 7/26/05 at 6:01pm
7/26/05 at 2:18pm, Vinny wrote:I don't understand why people are making such a big deal about this stockgate show? Does anyone actually think it will make a difference? It will be aired and it will be forgotten within days....to much hype over nothing.
Vinny ... if you want to understand why people are making a big deal about counterfeit shares read the attached email sent to the SEC in response to their invitation for input. The author is a consultant to MANY victim companies like CMKX.
www.sec.gov/rules/proposed/s72303/decosta122203.htm
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by bh on 7/26/05 at 6:02pm
7/26/05 at 2:18pm, Vinny wrote:I don't understand why people are making such a big deal about this stockgate show? Does anyone actually think it will make a difference? It will be aired and it will be forgotten within days....to much hype over nothing.
We'll soon find out. I can't imagine them doing anything that would give the sec a bad name so if it is on I expect it to be totally neutral about everything.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by Urbanite on 7/26/05 at 7:11pm
I dont want to pose this question...but what are the chances of it being rescheduled again??
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by Starlight on 7/26/05 at 7:11pm
Dear BlingBling,
This show IS already produced but has been postponed
at least 4-5 times already....!!
It was initially supposed to be aired last year before the
Presidential election and that got nipped in the bud....
A challenge to produce visually....??
I know that Dateline has interviewed quite a few people
for this show including billionaire Houston attorney, John O'Quinn,
who has been also working on a major lawsuit regarding NSS....
This national exposure has been long overdue....
It will start a "snowball effect"!!!
Once Pandora's Box has been finally opened for the
entire world to see there will be no turning back.....
The momentum will build and build until some sort of
resolution is reached.....!!!
Resolution Day is Nearing....!!!
Starlight
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by joesixpack on 7/26/05 at 7:43pm
7/26/05 at 2:20pm, Urbanite wrote:Many people would say..wow big deal, its just a tv show. However, look how long it has taken for NBC to roll this out, probably with much scrutiny from the DTC, et all. With the growing outcry for this to be publicized and the situation to be fixed, there is a reason to celebreate.
I'll bet my 6 pack that it has been doctored to heck with the meat cut out and the bottom line is going to be...
"A little NSS is good for the market.. after all me must protect the investors... "
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by royalstaroflion on 7/26/05 at 9:03pm
I want this story to aired as much as the next guy , but have any of you taken into consideration the ramifications of the Stockgate scandal ? Unless I miss my guess , it could create a sell off in the markets .
The timing of which could be lousy for us . I'm just thinking out loud here guys . My feeling is something is
going to happen with CMKX very soon .
Say this stock hits in the next month or so . About the same time the scandal airs , who is going to be dong any buying ? The big boys maybe , some investors who don't get the news , but my feeling is this bad news will spread Like a wild fie in the west .
Hope I'm right on the part about CMKX , not sure about
the market part .
I would like some input on this please .
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by kranker on 7/26/05 at 9:24pm
7/26/05 at 5:46pm, pheenix11 wrote:Don't hold your breath
Have you checked out this thread yet?
cmkxdiamond.proboards32.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1122391668
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by kranker on 7/26/05 at 9:31pm
7/26/05 at 6:01pm, bkeepa wrote:
www.sec.gov/rules/proposed/s72303/decosta122203.htm
Sounds familiar,
"As long as no participants at the DTCC "rock the boat" and buy-in any of these debts from their co-participants, then all will be fine. Now you can see why the DTCC, when faced with an issuer distributing a 100% share distribution, doesn't force those that owe it shares to level up their accounts before the dividend record date like any other creditor would. Instead it tells its participants/debtors, itself basically, that you don't have to pay your debt because of this dividend, we'll just start up a new IOU for the dividend shares and place it right next to your old unpaid debt. When the debtors ask, "But what shall we tell the investors on their monthly brokerage statements?" The reply is to just tell those naive investors that their dividend shares arrived from the Transfer Agent safely, and since we hold them in an anonymous "pooled" format, they'll never know the difference! So what, in essence, are the shareholders really buying since these bogus electronic book entries don't have the rights attached to shares? They're buying the "right" to sell these bogus electronic book entries to some other naive sap that senses a bargain since the price is so cheap."
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by kranker on 7/26/05 at 9:35pm
7/26/05 at 6:01pm, bkeepa wrote:
www.sec.gov/rules/proposed/s72303/decosta122203.htm
He called it to a tee, 18 months before SHO began,
"I don't think that we really have to remind you of this fact but just in case, please be aware that as Regulation SHO implementation approaches, a lot of the "open positions" currently at the DTCC are going to "sprout wings" and fly into the "in-house proprietary accounts" of the perpetrators of this fraud as well as to "in house" accounts of the offshore non-NASD broker/dealers. This will be effected via wash sales and matched trades just like in all of the "death spiral" version of naked short selling cases. "
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by Captain "PR" on 7/26/05 at 9:35pm
Lets do something to get some massive attention on naked shorting not just small little dinky e-mails and calling officials. we need to do something that will get noticed NON-criminal of course. what can get major exposer and make people rememeber it?
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by kranker on 7/26/05 at 9:44pm
Q&A from another board. The poster has a good basic question that many will ask,
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quote:Posted - 07/18/2005 : 20:56:41
Originally posted by cookie12
Kranker, why is the media not onto this story in a major way? Please answer this.
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Cookie,
The reasons are many and I won't pretend to know them all. The other members have certainly posted several valid reasons, in my opinion.
Further, major corporations own the major media. The major corporations are tied at the hip with the major financial institutions that they rely upon for...you guessed it...financing to operate their businesses. Moreover, the major corporations rely on the major financial institutions for promotion of their businesses and by association, promotion and sale of their stock.
For NBC, parent company GE, to withhold a broadcast that exposes criminal activity of their underwriters or sponsors (whatever the possibility), just makes perfect sense when you think about it. And since the NBC Dateline "Stockgate" story is being "re-edited", count on the smoking gun to point offshore first to some far-away, untouchable, evil foreign entity not related to GE or their partners in any way whatsoever. Someone else will need to find the courage to finger US financial institutions that facilitate stock counterfeiting by allowing global criminals to commit crimes under cloak of our "respected financial institutions". Make no mistake though, exposing some far-away,offshore, evil, foreign entity is a good start and useful to our cause if it just gets the ball rolling for the inevitable "pile-on" that the media is so well noted for.
Did I mention, GE is one of the largest financial services corporations in the world?
tinyurl.com/b8jj3
Let's move to television advertising revenues. Why would NBC incriminate their advertisers (insert any bank, brokerage house, investment firm here) ? You expose these entities and they stop advertising with you, PERIOD!
Let's not concentrate too much on NBC though. True, NBC has withheld their story for over 18 months. However, the other major networks are not taking the heat, only because they managed to keep the lid on it and never allowed their producers to commence work reporting and exposing electronic stock counterfeiting.
This single thread, on this single board, contains links to enough evidence to prove this crime. I understand your question of why? As you can tell now, it's all very simple.
The information above is all my opinion.
-kranker
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by BrainDamage on 7/26/05 at 9:56pm
I'm expecting it to be cancelled/re-scheduled/pre-empted by more important stories (like the life story of the 3rd place finisher of Gilligan's Island last season...and no, I don't watch it, lol).
So if I turn it on and they actually air the Stockgate piece, I'll be pleasantly surprised rather than bitterly disappinted like I was last time...
-BD
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by royalstaroflion on 7/26/05 at 10:12pm
I appreciate Kranker and BrainDamaged posts always ,
but no one has answered my question yet .
If the blame go's to shadowy off shore entities fine ,but
don't you think this could still result in a sell off ?
The timing of which could effect our ability to sell .
Ok this is putting the cart before the horse , but don't any of you think this is a legitimate concern ?
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by kranker on 7/26/05 at 10:47pm
7/26/05 at 10:12pm, royalstaroflion wrote:don't you think this could still result in a sell off ?
Sure, but not of CMKX
Quote:The timing of which could effect our ability to sell .
Are you talking about CMKX? You can't be serious about our ability to sell CMKX are you?
Quote:Ok this is putting the cart before the horse , but don't any of you think this is a legitimate concern ?
If Dateline tells the truth, yes, it could affect things. But we don't have a clue what Dateline is going to show, IF they even show anything.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by archangle on 7/26/05 at 10:52pm
It is good news but i'll believe it when i see it.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by teehuot on 7/26/05 at 11:23pm
at this point i will say "it just another disappointed date"
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by Squirrel on 7/26/05 at 11:26pm
Holding breath....
<Flailing tail>
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by Stone Crusher on 7/26/05 at 11:52pm
Dammint Vinny! How many times have I told you not to use your mob name on the boards.
7/26/05 at 2:18pm, Vinny wrote:I don't understand why people are making such a big deal about this stockgate show? Does anyone actually think it will make a difference? It will be aired and it will be forgotten within days....to much hype over nothing.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by funado on 7/27/05 at 4:36am
I hope someone will record this. I'm in Japan and won't be able to see it. I'd be happy to pay expenses if someone could tape it and send it to me.
If anyone thinks they can do this, please PM me.
TIA,
Funado
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by glenmarangie0 on 7/27/05 at 7:56am
Here is a question to all. If this does air who do you think gave it the green light i.e put the pressure on ? and why do you think it is being allowed to be aired ?
We already know that the DTCC was instrumental in getting it pulled the last time.
The SEC wouldn't want it to air as it it could implement them in a cover-up or at least make them look as if they are on the side of the bad guys.
Date-line(GE) wouldn't make the decision on their own as they could make to many high powered enemies.
Just curious to everyones thoughts. Could there be higher powers (areas of government) that played a part ?
Who knows, just bouncing.
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by bunnyb on 7/27/05 at 8:26am
I can see it now.The sec answering questions about how they 'SAVED' future investors from the big bad pink sheet stocks and plans for a future in which only select brokerages can trade pink. {MM} GOODBYE NEW INNOVATION IN AMERICA !
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Re: Dateline NBC to Finally Air Stockgate Story
Post by Urbanite on 7/27/05 at 11:55am
Of course, they will try and save their own faces and redeem themselves.
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