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Post by citybear59 on Jun 22, 2015 18:34:14 GMT -4
I remember KFL vaguely from my days on the MM board. I can't say that I recall anything that he said from back in those days. Al Hodges is a lawyer as well and his credibility is lacking substantially (IMO of course). I haven't a clue what the future of NHHI/CMKX is but I'm 100% certain that the notion of a huge trust payout for shareholders is nonsense.
Al's reference to the "Cabal" tells me one thing only, he is so caught up in his conspiracy theories that he has lost his foothold on reality.
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Post by ines on Jul 1, 2015 10:14:06 GMT -4
I remember KFL vaguely from my days on the MM board. I can't say that I recall anything that he said from back in those days. Al Hodges is a lawyer as well and his credibility is lacking substantially (IMO of course). I haven't a clue what the future of NHHI/CMKX is but I'm 100% certain that the notion of a huge trust payout for shareholders is nonsense. Al's reference to the "Cabal" tells me one thing only, he is so caught up in his conspiracy theories that he has lost his foothold on reality. Now its good to note that me and you have been at least in the past on the opposite side of the spectrum lets say.. in regards the Trust.. from what I can gather.. for years.. I believed that there is a trust. However, even with that position.. I really hate that our shareholders base has been high jacked into the world of obscure websites and story lines from dinar to Cottrell.. all thanks to Hodges. We had foot in reality when we pulled the certs to prove the NSS.. and expected the roi.. at least it made possible sense.. now its become a different story. What I see is that Hodges really wanted to draw attention to Cottrells story line, since he is his lawyer, so he used cmkx shareholder base .. and by "magic" connected Cottrell to cmkx. Cottrell story itself and what he puts out.. from his gold treaty seems to be manufactured by him.. things just don't fit.. I checked it out.. its a self produced vortex. Plenty of magic, or straight up lies and verbal manipulation, but in the end.. it seems it comes down to Hodges Cabal.. and their ultimate message of changing the federal reserve system.. and us dollar to .. gold/asset backed dollar. O well,... obviously how many will latch onto those speculations.. in so many forms.
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Post by citybear59 on Jul 1, 2015 11:59:10 GMT -4
I agree Ines. I did some poking around on Lee Wanta's site Wantarevelations. They're all cut from the same cloth, Hodges, Cottrell, the late Chris Story and Wanta. All he talks about is the evil Cabal and Nesara. These people are not living in the real world, they are conspiracy theorists to the core. It would be entertaining for you to give it a read, what an insight into the way their minds work.
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Post by ines on Jul 2, 2015 12:45:57 GMT -4
you know what the bottom line for me is, it is that I do give a damn... about the effort that shareholders have done. I do give a damn.. I have to say that.. all those years pulling the certs, listening to the company people, following the nss issue, registering with 2 transfer agents.
Now we are at the point.. after so many points.. and different years.. that you simply want to go away.. which is in one way.. the only way not to waste more time, and on the other way really maddening.. because we never got to the bottom line of some really important issues facts or truth.
The insanity level with this journey only seems to progress.. It was insane to begin with, we know that. Talking about nss, which we were told publicly is non existent. Talking about claims ... and chasing that tail. Getting Maheu on bod and as a trustee for Task force.. Distributing Entourage stock? And Other Assets- we were told.
So it was always kind of insane.. except after years in this.. one would expect that something sane would happen. Something sane that we thought would come out of that insanity. (roi and payout from nss or proving it)
just the opposite comes our way. at least we knew what we thought we should have known before.. what we are doing or talking about. ok proving the nss. pull the certs. get paid.
Instead.. we get more insanity on stereoids. Do I really want to get attached to every person or group.. that claims something in this world ? NO
Just because we accepted to pull the certs.. and we understood the nss.. and we kind of went along with the double talk.. on that whole issue coming from the company.. does not mean.. I am going to get adopted by everybody out there.. who talks in cirlces.. or has "ideas" etc. And obviously.. there are so many people and groups out there that would love to adopt "new people" or a whole shareholders base into their fold of information and influence.
I get it that the whole thing now seems to be about federal reserve changing.. or the dollar to not be fiat any more but .. asset based. Right. but we had people talking about it for years even before we started with cmkx in 2004. After so many years in this saga.. and so many carrots.. that is now the new carrot in front of cmkx shareholders
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Post by ines on Jul 2, 2015 13:02:11 GMT -4
So that new carrot in front of cmkx shareholders..
Is it real? is it not.. If there ever was any trust for cxmkx shareholders. it seems to me that Bob maheu forked up big time. He did not plan well on distribution. Maybe he died too soon, but you should not go into something without knowing what your plan is.
What is the point on making all this effort or going into something without a plan? ~~~~~~~~~~~
in any case.. if there was any money and still is.. it seems to me they failed in their distribution plan. Bob maheu and whomever was there after him.
now.. talking about change of fed reserve and fiat money.. is really nothing but the bottom line excuse for saying.. that the whole system has to change..
It did not have to change for ceo of Overstock. he started in same environment just like us.. and he has already gotten money out of some of the hedge funds.. and it suing banks and soon will expose all the info about nss and other because judge ok that info goes into the public.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In any case.. our case seems to be forked up. And we are being high jacked with insanity once again. Its not like Overstock does not understand the markets or wall street or fed reserve or fiat dollar. I am sure he does. people understood it times and times before.. even before 2004 when we started.
Since there is no cat in cmkx.. any more.. or all the cats are in hiding.. ( like who is the trustee for that cmkx trust? ) well then obviously the barn door is open.. to mice.
And all the mice .. want to call themselves the big cats.. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Always excuses in cmkx.. always the bigger excuses.. more excuses, some new targets.. more people want to pile on.. since its abandoned house.. so hey.. any mouse can come in..
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Post by ines on Jul 2, 2015 13:09:43 GMT -4
What are the odds of all of this happening or any of this happening.. and even if it did that it has to do at all with roi resolution in cmkx ?
Who the heck knows.. but for sure in the meantime of something, or nothing.. shareholders are force fed to loose their minds trying to follow these characters.. many of their insane stories spanning way before we even pulled the certs.
I find many of these people to simply be leaches.. whether there is any real possibility that there will be change with us dollar or fed system.. and whether that indeed has anything to do with supposed cmkx trust and its release.
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Post by ines on Jul 2, 2015 13:23:11 GMT -4
I agree Ines. I did some poking around on Lee Wanta's site Wantarevelations. They're all cut from the same cloth, Hodges, Cottrell, the late Chris Story and Wanta. All he talks about is the evil Cabal and Nesara. These people are not living in the real world, they are conspiracy theorists to the core. It would be entertaining for you to give it a read, what an insight into the way their minds work. I did read into some of the Cottrell stuff just to see if even his own story fits. I can see the manipulation.. and of course these people never give interviews so that somebody can ask them questions. at least I have not seen it. we know that hodges has never really had Q & A with shareholders. it would not work.. and he does not want it. its only in this form.. where its really quite one sided and limited of writing something and then perpetually putting it out and repeating it.. that they see it work for them. I can bring some things I wrote on mill board.. about cottrells info. The thing is.. I think its become sad for cmkx shareholders. I am purposely writing here because its open to all. I think its hard for shareholders to really read or find many different opinions..
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Post by citybear59 on Jul 3, 2015 7:11:01 GMT -4
I agree Ines. I did some poking around on Lee Wanta's site Wantarevelations. They're all cut from the same cloth, Hodges, Cottrell, the late Chris Story and Wanta. All he talks about is the evil Cabal and Nesara. These people are not living in the real world, they are conspiracy theorists to the core. It would be entertaining for you to give it a read, what an insight into the way their minds work. I did read into some of the Cottrell stuff just to see if even his own story fits. I can see the manipulation.. and of course these people never give interviews so that somebody can ask them questions. at least I have not seen it. we know that hodges has never really had Q & A with shareholders. it would not work.. and he does not want it. its only in this form.. where its really quite one sided and limited of writing something and then perpetually putting it out and repeating it.. that they see it work for them. I can bring some things I wrote on mill board.. about cottrells info. The thing is.. I think its become sad for cmkx shareholders. I am purposely writing here because its open to all. I think its hard for shareholders to really read or find many different opinions.. Lol, I'm going to leave that one alone, suffice it to say that boards like this and a few others are necessary. Censorship has become the norm in some forums.
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Post by ines on Jul 3, 2015 15:48:04 GMT -4
Yup
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