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Post by citybear59 on Sept 30, 2016 18:29:39 GMT -4
Wow, you got all that from good grief. I'm getting dizzy with all that round and round stuff... or is that stuffium? Lol, JR sometimes there's no point in trying to have a civil debate.
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Post by mullahpaloozer on Oct 31, 2016 12:01:37 GMT -4
oh looky, looky here! is someone else looking at the numbers and calling FOUL?yeeeeeeaaaaaaap!others seem to forget ... CMKM/NHHI DOES NOT OWN ANY OIL WELLS!it has been stated that 'they' will receive something, no specific amount given, as a gesture of goodwill? don't hold your breath! SERIOUSLY ... DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH!
don't believe me? that's OK. go back and read the original post in this thread. the ONLY post that examines the numbers as they are and not the BS that many of the know-it alls make claim! that's right ... I SAID KNOW-IT-ALLS! THIS STOCK WILL NEVER TRADE AGAIN.
AND SK KNOWS IT!from another board:ponders*Diamond* CMKM/NHHI Webinar #60 Notes -10-30-16 So NHE investors must be enthralled with the news they are giving up an equity stake in the company to CMKM/NHHI for nothing. What NHE investor isn't going omg right about now?I hope he got an even trade when selling back the property to the original owners at least. What a horrible update for NHE. I'm laughing that even mentioned the fact they own a well producing only 2.5 bpd. Probably for the sake of finally saying they produce oil, idk. I probably pee that much on a football Sunday.
See now, this is one of the huge problems I have with the guy, it's when he goes and says things with absolutely nothing to back it up at all. He states that there's no plans for a reverse split and that after purchasing a few leaking oil wells we're going to take 600 billion shares of stock back to the market. All of that is 100% wishful thinking. Gives a time frame of 24 months. I'd love to be a fly on the wall when he tries to talk to the SEC about doing that. What a joke this all is.Read more: tfant53.proboards.com/thread/11276/cmkm-nhhi-webinar-60-notes#ixzz4Og8ULlOJ
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Post by citybear59 on Oct 31, 2016 17:58:06 GMT -4
Everyone has their opinion, do I believe that we'll trade again? Not sure, I would like to recoup what I lost with this fiasco but it wasn't life changing money so I'm not worried. You seem to be the ONLY shareholder making emphatic statements that the company will NEVER trade. So, what do you support? You really believe the Hodges fantasy? You think there is a magical, mystical trust set aside for shareholders? Of course it has to wait until we get to an asset backed currency, the government as we know it collapses and the evil dark cabal is defeated hahaha! Oh and not forgetting the Dinar revaluation.
Al Hodges is a conspiracy theorist, tied to the late Edward Harle, aka Chris Story. They have their loony followers there's no doubt but there's absolutely no money coming to shareholders from Al.
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Post by mullahpaloozer on Oct 31, 2016 20:08:40 GMT -4
in order to trade again, there must be an established value. this company has no value. well maybe some properties that are in recovery, kinda. but as history shows, any monies received from sell off of recovered assets has a repetitive habit of disappearing, rather compensating lawyers, asset collectors and all dem other open hands. strike one. it has 600 BILLION SHARES. strike two. it has 30% of whatever % NHE has in oil wells for what that's worth. strike ...? it has a CEO that has been promising a 'return to trading' for almost 5 years and the latest update is that it will take another 2 years to accomplish such. strike ...? and most importantly ... it was naked shorted. STRIKE 3,4,5!
so NO, this company will never trade again. and yeah, that's my opinion cept it's backed by facts.
of course one could always wish upon a star, or hold their breath until they turn blue, or just have another cup of SK KOOL-AID ... what's your favorite flavor? ... here have some!
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Post by citybear59 on Nov 1, 2016 11:22:02 GMT -4
Thank you for the response, good civil debate. I'm not sold on us ever returning to trading either, nor will I ever believe the fantasies that some people continue to flout. In my mind, my investment is gone, lost and forgotten about. I want to see those who scammed shareholders pay for their roles, some are still on various boards. Complicity is just as bad as perpetrating
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Post by mullahpaloozer on Nov 2, 2016 16:30:09 GMT -4
yes, I stand ... but not alone. and yes, I have had words with ponders. and yes, he has had words with me.
but somehow the 'twain' has met. truth is truth no matter the source. ponders*Diamond* CMKM/NHHI Webinar #60 Notes -10-30-16 2 hours ago via mobile Oct 31, 2016 at 2:54pm 4profit said: Ponders: "So NHE investors must be enthralled with the news they are giving up an equity stake in the company to CMKM/NHHI for nothing. What NHE investor isn't going OMG right about now?" NHE investors agreed to the deal before they invested....the whole premise of the deal is to help NHHI investors while NHE investors make some interest until they are paid back. Through recovery of assets lost in CMKM/NHHI, NHHI investors will be able to co-invest. You think Steve just sprung that on them? LOL These are CMKM/NHHI investors, investing in NHE, who want to get something happening in NHHI. What's not to understand? They are separate for now because if NHE fails, there is no risk to CMKM/NHHI investors and CMKM/NHHI investors and their history, aren't a risk to NHE investors. NHE investors bear all the risk. Okay where to start.... First off, what deal? What deal was made to give equity in a company in exchange for what?
"The premise of the deal is to help NHHI while NHE makes interest" How is NHE making interest from NHHI? That's news.
"Through recovery of assets lost in CMKM/NHHI, NHHI investors will be able to co-invest." I'm sorry, but I think we all know that's wishful thinking right there. I will maintain my belief that 100% of all monies collected will contintue to line the pockets of management and lawyers. There are no substantial recoveries to be made that can give any value to 600+ Billion shares of stock. That's kinda the 800lb gorilla in the room isn't it?
Lastly, you're reasoning for why the companies are separate is pretty much common sense. It really only adds more questions than it does answers. Like, why does NHE assume %100 of the risk but not the profit? My main source of income is running a small company and I'll tell you right now I'm not about to give an equity stake in my Co for no good reason unless somebody is giving me money, capital, or equity in something "worth" equal to or greater than value of my company shares. Kinda how business works..
I understood the update just fine. I also understood why Kirkpatrick was telling people he has a $40 Million Lawsuit "dead to rights". He was just misspoken I suppose, couldn't have been to convince investors to fund New Horizions Energy. No, that's impossible.
Makes about as much sense to negate market capitalization so shareholders can hope for a short squeeze on 600+ Billion shares of stock the SEC will never let back to market. Maybe I just smoke too much herb. Read more: tfant53.proboards.com/thread/11276/cmkm-nhhi-webinar-60-notes?page=2#ixzz4OswCKxCX
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Post by citybear59 on Nov 3, 2016 15:58:30 GMT -4
I like Ponders, always have. We agree on many points and he presents his opinions clearly.
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Post by mullahpaloozer on Nov 15, 2016 12:56:05 GMT -4
" ... easily deceived, at one time so were we all."citybear59 Read more: tfant53.proboards.com/thread/11294/true#ixzz4Q5pw2MlxHA, HA, HA, HA! ... oh my ... HA, HA, HA ,HA!sometimes ... excuse me, i need to catch my breath. HA, HA! ... breath!OK, i'm better now that i got that out of my system. this, this thing, this mess, this debacle, this scam of a scam of a scam ... at times it is infuriating ... and other times, it's just too d**n funny! it's like a never end cartoon with a revolving cast of characters. here a con, there a con, everywhere a con, con! and better than that ... each week another lays claim that all them out there don't know what they're talking about, only opinions that don't count cause i know better. HA, HA! ... give me a break. ... give it a break! your opinion is no better than mine. and my opinion is no better than yours. too many ride the high horse, looking down their nose at/to those that dare to disagree. i suppose riding the pony gives credibility to the words one spews ... OK, if you say so. and i suppose that posting what you get from another source as your own, well that's just dishonest. why would one take credit for what others have provided? and why would such poster hold themselves in such high regard, as if it is they and only they, whose opinion matters, has credibility? it really matters not. if it floats your boat to degrade others, then go ahead, degrade. if it makes you feel superior to post what you didn't get through good ole DD, but rather got it from a subscription, go right ahead. if it makes you feel better to question others opinion just because it doesn't jive with yours, well, if you got to, go ahead. post all you want! shout it out to the world! tell 'em all! ... tell 'em all that you and only you have the goods, have the bottom line, have the truth, have the answer! go ahead, tell 'em! there has been much i have called out and there are and have been many that have objection to what i say. it really matters not.it hasn't, it doesn't and it won't make anything change ... past, present or future. " ... easily deceived, at one time so were we all." that's right ... deceived. not one of us wanted to loose our monies when we hit the 'BUY' button. all of us had visions of possible untold wealth ... a wealth beyond our wildest dreams. dreamed of a chance, rather an opportunity to better not only our lives, but that of friends, family, not just for 'our' generation but future generations as well. we believed ... believed in that which was at best, a loooooong shot. we had perhaps, a common greed for $$$$$$$!, lots and lots of $$$$$$$$$$! and now we find ourselves spending time, too much time, on the boards, defending ours and denigrating yours. exchanging derogatory comments, calling each other names, making claim to know better than the rest. in the words of the great Bill Murray, "it just doesn't matter!".
" it just doesn't matter ... it just doesn't matter." and whether today, tomorrow, the next or perhaps never, when and if we decide to put this nonsense behind and accept the one and only one fact that really matters. your shares, my shares, our shares ... his shares, her shares, their shares ... all the 800 BILLION SHARES ... each and every one of them ... is not worth the paper printed on or the ink so used. useless ... absolutely useless ... worth nothing ... nothing at all. yet, here we remain ... why? perhaps we all share hope, share that dream that one day, one day, one day this just might be worth something. maybe even what we have invested ... one can only hope. good fortune to us all.
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Post by citybear59 on Nov 15, 2016 17:17:31 GMT -4
Ahhh yes, you're back to true form again. You take a snippet of a post where I spoke about the passing of Bob Holanek and turn it into a rant. I was paying respect to the man who, though I disagreed with him, has passed without seeing the end of this saga.
You are such a mouthpiece, this latest post of yours is probably one of the rudest you've ever posted. Instead of quoting one line from my post why don't you pay the man some respect yourself. I actually thought you were coming around but again, I was mistaken.
FWIW, I still believe we were scammed, always will and your pedantic postulating means nothing.
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Post by mullahpaloozer on Nov 15, 2016 19:56:12 GMT -4
Ahhh yes, you're back to true form again. You take a snippet of a post where I spoke about the passing of Bob Holanek and turn it into a rant. I was paying respect to the man who, though I disagreed with him, has passed without seeing the end of this saga. You are such a mouthpiece, this latest post of yours is probably one of the rudest you've ever posted. Instead of quoting one line from my post why don't you pay the man some respect yourself. I actually thought you were coming around but again, I was mistaken. FWIW, I still believe we were scammed, always will and your pedantic postulating means nothing. look ... LOOK!" ... easily deceived, at one time so were we all."
"that's right ... deceived."
WOW! for being " pedantic postulating"that " means nothing" ... well, it certainly seems that it means/meant something to you. please accept my apologies for not meeting your standards. and yes, i am fully aware of where the quote came from and the it's full context. no foul intent was or is implied ... none ... nada ... zilch ... zero! but your hatred for me, once again blinded you from the truth. i quoted you because i agreed with you! ... we were ALL scammed!!!!!!!!!!! at the beginning ... in the middle ... and possibly again now! and I so much said so in my previous post, the one you take soooooo much issue. give it a break ... turn it down a few notches ... and quit turning everything I say into a personal attack on you. you, mr citybear are the least of my worries or concerns. as for your post of respect for Bob Hollenegg ... really? you know nothing about Bob Hollenegg. you never respected Hollenegg. you constantly belittled the man for each and every post he made. you called him a scammer and accused him of profiting from the Bivens Suit. you included him in your vitriol that included Urban, Deli, and Al Hodges, likening them to be less than scum. you launched personal venom upon him when his health issues became known. don't continue to disrespect the man. leave the man be. and again ... good fortune to us all
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Post by citybear59 on Nov 15, 2016 20:36:23 GMT -4
I apologize then if your intent was something other than what I took from it. It did however read as yet another attempt to belittle. As for Bob goes, how do you know that I know nothing about him. Let me enlighten you, we had no less than a dozen phone calls over the past six years. We disagreed on the whole Bivens suit and Hodges but we were civil to each other. We argued at times but neither he nor I were disrespectful to each other. So your statement is in error.
I hold no hatred toward you,nor anyone else for that matter. That's why I engaged in discussion with you because it seemed that we were both capable of civilized discourse. Maybe I took your reply the wrong way and, again, if I did I apologize.
Just as an addendum though, there are some on the boards who, although I don't hate, I would love to see behind bars. Those who who have continued to lie to shareholders, I think you and I both know who they are. If we believed all they have said President Obama would have been in prison along with the Clintons because of their involvement with the "Cabal". The ones stating that the Dinar and the Dong will RV and that this is all a part of GCR. It's fantasy Mullah and I believe you know that. So, let's make a deal, put our past differences behind us and try to dig up the truth. There are some things that, believe it or not, I agree with you on. I believe that there are people on various boards who have profited by currency scams like the Dinar and Dong. There are some that I believe are continuing this fantasy for their own nefarious purposes. The sad fact is that the only ones who haven't turned a dime of profit are the true shareholders. Can we agree?
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Post by mullahpaloozer on Nov 17, 2016 11:13:42 GMT -4
I apologize then if your intent was something other than what I took from it. It did however read as yet another attempt to belittle. As for Bob goes, how do you know that I know nothing about him. Let me enlighten you, we had no less than a dozen phone calls over the past six years. We disagreed on the whole Bivens suit and Hodges but we were civil to each other. We argued at times but neither he nor I were disrespectful to each other. So your statement is in error. I hold no hatred toward you,nor anyone else for that matter. That's why I engaged in discussion with you because it seemed that we were both capable of civilized discourse. Maybe I took your reply the wrong way and, again, if I did I apologize. Just as an addendum though, there are some on the boards who, although I don't hate, I would love to see behind bars. Those who who have continued to lie to shareholders, I think you and I both know who they are. If we believed all they have said President Obama would have been in prison along with the Clintons because of their involvement with the "Cabal". The ones stating that the Dinar and the Dong will RV and that this is all a part of GCR. It's fantasy Mullah and I believe you know that. So, let's make a deal, put our past differences behind us and try to dig up the truth. There are some things that, believe it or not, I agree with you on. I believe that there are people on various boards who have profited by currency scams like the Dinar and Dong. There are some that I believe are continuing this fantasy for their own nefarious purposes. The sad fact is that the only ones who haven't turned a dime of profit are the true shareholders. Can we agree? " ... your pedantic postulating means nothing."it is but an unimaginative and dull personal theory of little importance. yet you continue to engage ... again. as if i am a huckleberry, a burr in the blanket, but how can that be? they are but words that mean nothing, are of little importance. this compulsion /need to respond continues to betray you. perhaps it would serve you well to put me on ignore. escape this grasp, this nonexistent power my words have that mean nothing of importance. put me on ignore citybear, your life will be better for it.
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Post by citybear59 on Nov 17, 2016 21:25:02 GMT -4
Ok Mullah, last time I respond to a post of yours, I admitted that I misinterpreted your response. I apologized but you won't accept that. So be it. I don't post here often, I decided a year ago not to antagonize or rant and I've done my best to keep that promise. You're on ignore but, I still welcome civil debate. Regardless of our differences in the past I do believe you have something to offer.
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Post by citybear59 on Nov 18, 2016 19:02:05 GMT -4
As a respectful suggestion, I ask my fellow board members to please remember that posting here is subject to our long-standing board rules regarding respect for others and non-disruptive posting. This includes not posting information of a political nature (including in signatures and status lines) on the main board. Discussing CMKX pertinent issues instead of fellow posters usually produces the best results here. Other alternatives are available if these rules don't suit your tastes. With Respects, C-Dub Hey C-Dub, good to hear from you again! It's been a while, hope all is well with you. If I broke any rules I apologize and it won't happen again.
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