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D: He wants your opinion of the steps that CMKX has taken getting itself revoked, moving assets to other entities and orchestrating a certificate pull. Do you think that would be effective in forcing a short settlement?
BB: There is rumor of a short settlement having occurred already. And apparently it’s related to the number of shares presented to a settlement committee who will analyze the number of shares that were actually shorted in excess of the outstanding number of shares. Which will in turn trigger a, what’s called a structured settlement from an insurance company. You should be very aware of the fact that this is revolutionary in many ways.
D: In what respect?
BB: In the context no one has ever had been able to push the shorts, or the market makers into a structured settlement, if the story is true.
D: In history that’s never happened?
BB: Never happened that I’ve seen it, no.
D: Hmm.
BB: And I’ve been in the business 30 years plus. But the problem with CMKX is there’s been so many false flags, bad rumors, half truths, etc. it’s almost impossible to sort the wheat from the chaff. And I am –
D: I tried so desperately last year to have a sit down with Irvin. I offered to buy him lunch anywhere in the world. I would fly him there and myself there and I’d pay for lunch. I just, you know, I didn’t expect him to tell me any inside information. I just wanted to get to know the man. The man behind the legend. The urban legend. And I could never, I could never arrange it. I’m assuming he had more important things on his plate. But because of that, I was never able to tell people, hey CMKX is a great investment. You should jump in. But then again, I met so many people who had done so much due diligence and believe so strongly, I also didn’t feel comfortable saying, you know, this is a scam, you better stay away from it. I was sort of in a no man’s land. Truly the greatest anomaly ever to hit Wall Street with billions and billions of shares trading every day. And I could not gather enough information to make an intelligent investment decision. So I bought 20 million shares. Put them on the shelf and said, I’ll see what happens.
BB: Well anyone having that position today should be turning those shares into the company that [indiscernible] stock line. Because at this juncture, if this settlement story is true, the presence of anyone who actually owned the shares physically or has a confirm from a brokerage firm showing that they’re long the shares, needs to be presented. Because Casavant apparently bought up 700 odd billion shares. He is giving those shares back to the company as part of a settlement to avoid criminal charges, according to the latest rumors.
D: You know, I have a request in for my certificates, but they have not come yet. And it’s been, I’m gonna say it’s been three weeks now.
BB: Three weeks is nothing. Usually I know people that have had requests for certificates in for two years.
D: Oh my gosh. But yet other people have seemed to have gotten theirs without a problem.
BB: Well there’s, you say that but the majority have not been able to get their shares.
D: Okay, now this, okay the task force said we have till December 31st. December 31st rolls around. I still don’t have my certs. What do I do?
BB: Take your confirm statement from your brokerage firm showing, reflecting that you were long those shares in your account. And send that in substitute for the cert.
D: Okay. Alright.
BB: Yeah, it’s very interesting. In a classical sense, this is the very kind of issue where it’s counterfeit long, which can be exactly as we’ve described. That you are long the shares in your account, but you can’t get the delivery. Those counterfeit longs really have no rights. Okay?
D: Right.
BB: The rights are attached to the certificate itself, not to anything else.
D: Let me break in for just a second. For anyone who is tuning in late, we’re talking this morning with Mr. Bud Burrell. Mr. Burrell is an industry expert and consultant in the area of naked short selling, counterfeit shares on Wall Street. This is a part of the ongoing series of CFRN Investigates. Anyone listening who would like to subscribe to our free newsletter, all you need to do is drop an e-mail to CT@CFRN.net and I’ll be happy to add you to the list. Keep you apprised of all upcoming interviews and special shows. Getting back to the questions. Another good question. How come the U.S. Post Office isn’t going after them for mail fraud for mailing out statements saying we own a stock when in fact we own nothing?
BB: Ultimately the U.S. PIS, the IRS CIs, etc. all are responsive to as investigators the Department of Justice. The SEC has no criminal charging authority. It can only make a criminal referral to the Department of Justice. And bluntly, the career prosecutors in the Department of Justice are some of the most dedicated people in the world. A good example is this man Fitzgerald currently, who’s doing the handling the Libby case. But what I would say is specifically they don’t have the technical focus and depth necessary to properly prosecute frauds at this level of sophistication. This is not quantum physics. Having said that, it is also not trivial.
D: No.
BB: It takes three to five years of actual work in the industry to get to a fundamental basic level of understanding of what has happened here. I spent 30 years in the business, 20 years actively on Wall Street. And I can tell you that if I had missed one job that I had. And I had the most diverse job history of anyone I know in the industry. If I had missed one of those jobs, I would not understand what’s going on here.
D: Okay. Why is Senator Shelby chosen to shelve the inquiry of his committee into naked short selling?
BB: The only thing I can see is that he has been told that they have the potential here to crash the entire financial system. If these shorts are even a trillion dollars, naked shorts. A trillion dollars, which is only, you know, which is 4% of the correction or 5% of the market correction that occurred in the 2000-2003 period. If those fails deliver, or had to be bought in in the open market, there isn’t enough cash in the system to do it.
D: So stop or you could wake up with a horse’s head in your bed?
BB: Correct. Or the political equivalent.
D: Right.
BB: These rule changes may have occurred under Clinton and his administration, the Greenspan, Leavitt, O’Neal, etc. But at this particular point, I have personally kept the White House informed of what has gone on here. And for whatever reason, the powers to be, which is really the hedge fund lobby and the people, you know, the investment lobbies and the more major investment banks, have been successful in keeping this problem squelched. Senator Shelby unfortunately for him has so much personally specific information about this that he will be a victim when this story comes out.
D: Now one of the questions, it says CVN, formerly CSII, can track stock and financial transactions globally. There are two others that you mentioned yesterday. What are they?
BB: The one that I know has the most impressive patented technology for assessing share imbalances is a company called Shareholder Intelligence Services. I will disclose that I am an advisory board member of the company.
D: Uh-hmm.
BB: Shareholder Intelligence Services is run by a young man named David Winger. I shouldn’t say young. He’s 48. I’m 59. But David has done an extraordinary job of putting together a completely patented technology for analyzing all of the share positions that are reflected at depository trust, CDN Co., etc. And from that –
D: Does that, does that reflect short positions also?
BB: It gives you and analysis of where, how many shares you’re out of balance versus your understanding of what your shares in float are, and your shares outstanding are. You know that a CD & Co is showing a reflected position that exceeds the number of shares you can identify as being linked to your float and the number of shares outstanding, then you know that you have naked shorts positions in your stock that are not legal.
D: Okay. What can an investor do to protect themselves? I mean, short of just –
BB: Take delivery of your certificates.
D: Okay.
BB: Demand delivery. Particularly where you’re holding an investment in an early stage company that you’re holding for long term investment return. Pull the system shares. There’s only one way to do that. Order up the shares from your broker, or open a brokerage account in Switzerland or with Brown Brothers Harriman where they have a three day delivery versus payment. Anything else is a waste.
D: Okay. Well I hope everyone that is listening now on our Monday afternoon show, Darren and I have been encouraging people for weeks. Request, Darren calls it stock power. I’ve always used the terminologists request your certificate.
BB: The certificate is what everybody understands. If you can’t get the certificate, demand a written explanation from the broker. Okay, and let him know that you’re going to hold him liable for any failure to deliver that cert.
D: Now are you familiar with the Nevada strike force story and its connection to CMKX?
BB: Only, I can’t talk about what I’m involved. I provided information to the strike force.
D: Okay.
BB: There is, the second most important criminal proceeding in the country is in the DOJ strike force in Las Vegas. It was the persecutions coming out of the arrest and subsequent plea bargain deal they did with a man named Peter Birney. Peter Birney was linked to two lawyers named Chapman and Flannigan.
D: Uh-hmm.
BB: Chapman and Flannigan were in turn linked to a man named James Farrell of Alpha Stock Transfer. And they have been indicted. One of their partners has already pled guilty and is gonna be a witness against them. But I proceed, that is the first time a transfer agent has been indicted in American history.
D: It says here that Shawn Hackman was very involved in CMKX and he was one of the attorneys indicted and who eventually turned State’s evidence. Do you know, can you comment on that?
BB: Yes. Shawn Hackman did plea. It’s on the web. If you do the Google search it’s Chapman Flannigan indictment, or Shawn Hackman plea. Bottom line is the trial has been postponed a couple of times for different reasons. But what I suspect is they’re trying to force these people into a plea bargain agreement. Bluntly they were working with this man, Peter Birney, who was a shell creator. What he did when he created the shell is he held back certain stock certificates that he then took to Europe and sold without any knowledge of the company that the cert numbers were even outstanding or issued or traded. That was one of his many crimes. They, he has been cooperating since 2001. His plea agreement was unsealed in 2004. And he is a principal witness also against Chapman and Flannigan whose law firm he funded. And they were linked to many other manipulators, not just in Nevada, but nationally. What I’ve seen is a pattern here that all of the major manipulators. And there’s a, literally an infamous list of names of people who have been operating in this space from Florida to New York. From New York to Southern California. From Nevada to Boston. You name it. It is a highly coordinated conspiracy. And people don’t like that word, but believe me, it doesn’t have to be formal for the conspiracy to exist.
D: One of the questions asks, if you can answer this. I don’t know if you can.
BB: Uh-huh.
D: The settlement rumors that are floating around which you obviously have heard, did you get that from shareholders, brokers, financiers, can you tell us –
BB: From shareholders.
D: Okay, from shareholders.
BB: Yeah.
D: Now, another question. And this one loves to float around the message boards and everywhere else. And I don’t know if you can answer it. But is CMKX a sting operation?
BB: I believe that there’s a component of what was going on with CMKX. I think that inadvertently possibly Casavant stumbled into a major asset find in Saskatchewan. It’s an entire province is a giant alluvial plain. There is a productive gold mine, sorry, diamond mine up there being run by the people out of DeBeers etc. Oppenheim. The key element is this. I smelled an asset raid. Many of the so-called naked short bankruptcies were created with the specific intention of trying to strip out a valuable asset from the hands of parties who controlled it through these small public companies. A great example of one of these is Rod Young’s Eagle Tech Communications. Many people don’t know but he holds the primary patent in this country for what is called multiple destination single call number forwarding. That means you call a single number and it checks seven or eight or ten or however many phone numbers flicking for you. This is also known as the digital assistant concept. When his company was hit by the shorts, it was with the specific intent, not just to bankrupt the company but to steal the asset out of the bankruptcy for pennies on the dollar. Bluntly I think overstock.com was being targeted similarly.
D: Hmm.
BB: I’ve never spoken to them, but I can read the pattern so clearly, it’s a joke.
D: Well I think you touched on this yesterday, but let me ask it again. Can you, can you comment on Robert Mayhew’s involvement?
BB: I do not know Mr. Mayhew personally, but he and I am one step away from mutual friends.
D: Uh-hmm.
BB: He is a lifelong operator. I think his integrity is without question. But having said that, I don’t believe he’s gone, ever one anywhere he wasn’t sent. It’s interesting. He entered the transaction after Citi Group had one of their lawyers look into the company. I think they found substantial assets. I think what happened is that this panicked some of the major shorts in the stock. And there was too much seller boxing. That’s a term used to describe when the stock trades at .0001.
D: Uh-hmm.
BB: But it trades enormous volume there.
D: Right.
BB: And the bottom line is seller boxing to me is a principle signal of an attempt by someone to cause the change in control of an asset.
D: It’s also an easy way for somebody to double their money on every transaction.
BB: That’s correct. Mostly the people trying to do it, who aren’t part of the market maker clearing house system, are blocked from being allowed to participate.
D: Are you familiar with Peter Mayhew?
BB: I know the name.
D: Global Intelligence I guess it is.
BB: Heard the name only. Haven’t ever spoken with him.
D: I’m not –
BB: Not familiar with the company’s product.
D: I’m not familiar with him either, but it’s just one of the questions that just came up on my screen. Well, I want to thank you an awful lot for taking the time to come back to day, Bud. And as –
BB: Could I leave one last thought with you Dwayne?
D: Oh absolutely, yeah.
BB: I would like to direct everyone’s attention to the electronic transcript of the NASA proceeding that is on the NASA website. It’s about, it’s nearly two hours long. But I would tell you it’s one of the most enlightening two hours. Was it perfect? No. Nothing’s perfect. But could I tell you, no one’s done a better job than Ralph Lambiase in getting so many issues addressed in such a short time, which two hours is no time at all. You’d need two days to address each of the 15 topics that they raised. There were only about 25 topics involved in this space. But like I said, I could talk for 8 hours on each one.
D: Well that brings up a good point. Because I would like to invite you to come back tomorrow or Monday or Tuesday, whatever day is convenient for you.
BB: I would be happy to come back anytime you called. This is a good time in the morning for me.
D: Can we do it again tomorrow?
BB: You can.
D: Wonderful. I know a collect, I can hear the collective sigh of relief across the world, across the digital landscape. Because you’re talking about things that you have great knowledge of. A working experience of. And so much of what gets discussed on the message boards and in the chatrooms is hypotheses, theories, ideas. I mean, but you’re actually giving us some information that is based on experience. And we really appreciate that. Because as a CMKX shareholder and a shareholder in so many of the bulletin board and pink sheet companies, we don’t have anywhere to turn to get legitimate, honest, fact based answers. And you’re providing that right now, Bud, for a world of listeners. And on behalf of everyone tuning in, I just want to thank you so much for your time.
BB: Thank you Dwayne.
D: Keep up the good work. And we’ll talk to you again tomorrow morning.
BB: Take care.
faithandlogic said:
D: He wants your opinion of the steps that CMKX has taken getting itself revoked, moving assets to other entities and orchestrating a certificate pull. Do you think that would be effective in forcing a short settlement?
BB: There is rumor of a short settlement having occurred already. And apparently it’s related to the number of shares presented to a settlement committee who will analyze the number of shares that were actually shorted in excess of the outstanding number of shares. Which will in turn trigger a, what’s called a structured settlement from an insurance company. You should be very aware of the fact that this is revolutionary in many ways.
D: In what respect?
BB: In the context no one has ever had been able to push the shorts, or the market makers into a structured settlement, if the story is true.
D: In history that’s never happened?
BB: Never happened that I’ve seen it, no.
D: Hmm.
BB: And I’ve been in the business 30 years plus. But the problem with CMKX is there’s been so many false flags, bad rumors, half truths, etc. it’s almost impossible to sort the wheat from the chaff. And I am –
D: I tried so desperately last year to have a sit down with Irvin. I offered to buy him lunch anywhere in the world. I would fly him there and myself there and I’d pay for lunch. I just, you know, I didn’t expect him to tell me any inside information. I just wanted to get to know the man. The man behind the legend. The urban legend. And I could never, I could never arrange it. I’m assuming he had more important things on his plate. But because of that, I was never able to tell people, hey CMKX is a great investment. You should jump in. But then again, I met so many people who had done so much due diligence and believe so strongly, I also didn’t feel comfortable saying, you know, this is a scam, you better stay away from it. I was sort of in a no man’s land. Truly the greatest anomaly ever to hit Wall Street with billions and billions of shares trading every day. And I could not gather enough information to make an intelligent investment decision. So I bought 20 million shares. Put them on the shelf and said, I’ll see what happens.
BB: Well anyone having that position today should be turning those shares into the company that [indiscernible] stock line. Because at this juncture, if this settlement story is true, the presence of anyone who actually owned the shares physically or has a confirm from a brokerage firm showing that they’re long the shares, needs to be presented. Because Casavant apparently bought up 700 odd billion shares. He is giving those shares back to the company as part of a settlement to avoid criminal charges, according to the latest rumors.
D: You know, I have a request in for my certificates, but they have not come yet. And it’s been, I’m gonna say it’s been three weeks now.
BB: Three weeks is nothing. Usually I know people that have had requests for certificates in for two years.
D: Oh my gosh. But yet other people have seemed to have gotten theirs without a problem.
BB: Well there’s, you say that but the majority have not been able to get their shares.
D: Okay, now this, okay the task force said we have till December 31st. December 31st rolls around. I still don’t have my certs. What do I do?
BB: Take your confirm statement from your brokerage firm showing, reflecting that you were long those shares in your account. And send that in substitute for the cert.
D: Okay. Alright.
BB: Yeah, it’s very interesting. In a classical sense, this is the very kind of issue where it’s counterfeit long, which can be exactly as we’ve described. That you are long the shares in your account, but you can’t get the delivery. Those counterfeit longs really have no rights. Okay?
D: Right.
BB: The rights are attached to the certificate itself, not to anything else.
D: Let me break in for just a second. For anyone who is tuning in late, we’re talking this morning with Mr. Bud Burrell. Mr. Burrell is an industry expert and consultant in the area of naked short selling, counterfeit shares on Wall Street. This is a part of the ongoing series of CFRN Investigates. Anyone listening who would like to subscribe to our free newsletter, all you need to do is drop an e-mail to CT@CFRN.net and I’ll be happy to add you to the list. Keep you apprised of all upcoming interviews and special shows. Getting back to the questions. Another good question. How come the U.S. Post Office isn’t going after them for mail fraud for mailing out statements saying we own a stock when in fact we own nothing?
BB: Ultimately the U.S. PIS, the IRS CIs, etc. all are responsive to as investigators the Department of Justice. The SEC has no criminal charging authority. It can only make a criminal referral to the Department of Justice. And bluntly, the career prosecutors in the Department of Justice are some of the most dedicated people in the world. A good example is this man Fitzgerald currently, who’s doing the handling the Libby case. But what I would say is specifically they don’t have the technical focus and depth necessary to properly prosecute frauds at this level of sophistication. This is not quantum physics. Having said that, it is also not trivial.
D: No.
BB: It takes three to five years of actual work in the industry to get to a fundamental basic level of understanding of what has happened here. I spent 30 years in the business, 20 years actively on Wall Street. And I can tell you that if I had missed one job that I had. And I had the most diverse job history of anyone I know in the industry. If I had missed one of those jobs, I would not understand what’s going on here.
D: Okay. Why is Senator Shelby chosen to shelve the inquiry of his committee into naked short selling?
BB: The only thing I can see is that he has been told that they have the potential here to crash the entire financial system. If these shorts are even a trillion dollars, naked shorts. A trillion dollars, which is only, you know, which is 4% of the correction or 5% of the market correction that occurred in the 2000-2003 period. If those fails deliver, or had to be bought in in the open market, there isn’t enough cash in the system to do it.
D: So stop or you could wake up with a horse’s head in your bed?
BB: Correct. Or the political equivalent.
D: Right.
BB: These rule changes may have occurred under Clinton and his administration, the Greenspan, Leavitt, O’Neal, etc. But at this particular point, I have personally kept the White House informed of what has gone on here. And for whatever reason, the powers to be, which is really the hedge fund lobby and the people, you know, the investment lobbies and the more major investment banks, have been successful in keeping this problem squelched. Senator Shelby unfortunately for him has so much personally specific information about this that he will be a victim when this story comes out.
D: Now one of the questions, it says CVN, formerly CSII, can track stock and financial transactions globally. There are two others that you mentioned yesterday. What are they?
BB: The one that I know has the most impressive patented technology for assessing share imbalances is a company called Shareholder Intelligence Services. I will disclose that I am an advisory board member of the company.
D: Uh-hmm.
BB: Shareholder Intelligence Services is run by a young man named David Winger. I shouldn’t say young. He’s 48. I’m 59. But David has done an extraordinary job of putting together a completely patented technology for analyzing all of the share positions that are reflected at depository trust, CDN Co., etc. And from that –
D: Does that, does that reflect short positions also?
BB: It gives you and analysis of where, how many shares you’re out of balance versus your understanding of what your shares in float are, and your shares outstanding are. You know that a CD & Co is showing a reflected position that exceeds the number of shares you can identify as being linked to your float and the number of shares outstanding, then you know that you have naked shorts positions in your stock that are not legal.
D: Okay. What can an investor do to protect themselves? I mean, short of just –
BB: Take delivery of your certificates.
D: Okay.
BB: Demand delivery. Particularly where you’re holding an investment in an early stage company that you’re holding for long term investment return. Pull the system shares. There’s only one way to do that. Order up the shares from your broker, or open a brokerage account in Switzerland or with Brown Brothers Harriman where they have a three day delivery versus payment. Anything else is a waste.
D: Okay. Well I hope everyone that is listening now on our Monday afternoon show, Darren and I have been encouraging people for weeks. Request, Darren calls it stock power. I’ve always used the terminologists request your certificate.
BB: The certificate is what everybody understands. If you can’t get the certificate, demand a written explanation from the broker. Okay, and let him know that you’re going to hold him liable for any failure to deliver that cert.
D: Now are you familiar with the Nevada strike force story and its connection to CMKX?
BB: Only, I can’t talk about what I’m involved. I provided information to the strike force.
D: Okay.
BB: There is, the second most important criminal proceeding in the country is in the DOJ strike force in Las Vegas. It was the persecutions coming out of the arrest and subsequent plea bargain deal they did with a man named Peter Birney. Peter Birney was linked to two lawyers named Chapman and Flannigan.
D: Uh-hmm.
BB: Chapman and Flannigan were in turn linked to a man named James Farrell of Alpha Stock Transfer. And they have been indicted. One of their partners has already pled guilty and is gonna be a witness against them. But I proceed, that is the first time a transfer agent has been indicted in American history.
D: It says here that Shawn Hackman was very involved in CMKX and he was one of the attorneys indicted and who eventually turned State’s evidence. Do you know, can you comment on that?
BB: Yes. Shawn Hackman did plea. It’s on the web. If you do the Google search it’s Chapman Flannigan indictment, or Shawn Hackman plea. Bottom line is the trial has been postponed a couple of times for different reasons. But what I suspect is they’re trying to force these people into a plea bargain agreement. Bluntly they were working with this man, Peter Birney, who was a shell creator. What he did when he created the shell is he held back certain stock certificates that he then took to Europe and sold without any knowledge of the company that the cert numbers were even outstanding or issued or traded. That was one of his many crimes. They, he has been cooperating since 2001. His plea agreement was unsealed in 2004. And he is a principal witness also against Chapman and Flannigan whose law firm he funded. And they were linked to many other manipulators, not just in Nevada, but nationally. What I’ve seen is a pattern here that all of the major manipulators. And there’s a, literally an infamous list of names of people who have been operating in this space from Florida to New York. From New York to Southern California. From Nevada to Boston. You name it. It is a highly coordinated conspiracy. And people don’t like that word, but believe me, it doesn’t have to be formal for the conspiracy to exist.
D: One of the questions asks, if you can answer this. I don’t know if you can.
BB: Uh-huh.
D: The settlement rumors that are floating around which you obviously have heard, did you get that from shareholders, brokers, financiers, can you tell us –
BB: From shareholders.
D: Okay, from shareholders.
BB: Yeah.
D: Now, another question. And this one loves to float around the message boards and everywhere else. And I don’t know if you can answer it. But is CMKX a sting operation?
BB: I believe that there’s a component of what was going on with CMKX. I think that inadvertently possibly Casavant stumbled into a major asset find in Saskatchewan. It’s an entire province is a giant alluvial plain. There is a productive gold mine, sorry, diamond mine up there being run by the people out of DeBeers etc. Oppenheim. The key element is this. I smelled an asset raid. Many of the so-called naked short bankruptcies were created with the specific intention of trying to strip out a valuable asset from the hands of parties who controlled it through these small public companies. A great example of one of these is Rod Young’s Eagle Tech Communications. Many people don’t know but he holds the primary patent in this country for what is called multiple destination single call number forwarding. That means you call a single number and it checks seven or eight or ten or however many phone numbers flicking for you. This is also known as the digital assistant concept. When his company was hit by the shorts, it was with the specific intent, not just to bankrupt the company but to steal the asset out of the bankruptcy for pennies on the dollar. Bluntly I think overstock.com was being targeted similarly.
D: Hmm.
BB: I’ve never spoken to them, but I can read the pattern so clearly, it’s a joke.
D: Well I think you touched on this yesterday, but let me ask it again. Can you, can you comment on Robert Mayhew’s involvement?
BB: I do not know Mr. Mayhew personally, but he and I am one step away from mutual friends.
D: Uh-hmm.
BB: He is a lifelong operator. I think his integrity is without question. But having said that, I don’t believe he’s gone, ever one anywhere he wasn’t sent. It’s interesting. He entered the transaction after Citi Group had one of their lawyers look into the company. I think they found substantial assets. I think what happened is that this panicked some of the major shorts in the stock. And there was too much seller boxing. That’s a term used to describe when the stock trades at .0001.
D: Uh-hmm.
BB: But it trades enormous volume there.
D: Right.
BB: And the bottom line is seller boxing to me is a principle signal of an attempt by someone to cause the change in control of an asset.
D: It’s also an easy way for somebody to double their money on every transaction.
BB: That’s correct. Mostly the people trying to do it, who aren’t part of the market maker clearing house system, are blocked from being allowed to participate.
D: Are you familiar with Peter Mayhew?
BB: I know the name.
D: Global Intelligence I guess it is.
BB: Heard the name only. Haven’t ever spoken with him.
D: I’m not –
BB: Not familiar with the company’s product.
D: I’m not familiar with him either, but it’s just one of the questions that just came up on my screen. Well, I want to thank you an awful lot for taking the time to come back to day, Bud. And as –
BB: Could I leave one last thought with you Dwayne?
D: Oh absolutely, yeah.
BB: I would like to direct everyone’s attention to the electronic transcript of the NASA proceeding that is on the NASA website. It’s about, it’s nearly two hours long. But I would tell you it’s one of the most enlightening two hours. Was it perfect? No. Nothing’s perfect. But could I tell you, no one’s done a better job than Ralph Lambiase in getting so many issues addressed in such a short time, which two hours is no time at all. You’d need two days to address each of the 15 topics that they raised. There were only about 25 topics involved in this space. But like I said, I could talk for 8 hours on each one.
D: Well that brings up a good point. Because I would like to invite you to come back tomorrow or Monday or Tuesday, whatever day is convenient for you.
BB: I would be happy to come back anytime you called. This is a good time in the morning for me.
D: Can we do it again tomorrow?
BB: You can.
D: Wonderful. I know a collect, I can hear the collective sigh of relief across the world, across the digital landscape. Because you’re talking about things that you have great knowledge of. A working experience of. And so much of what gets discussed on the message boards and in the chatrooms is hypotheses, theories, ideas. I mean, but you’re actually giving us some information that is based on experience. And we really appreciate that. Because as a CMKX shareholder and a shareholder in so many of the bulletin board and pink sheet companies, we don’t have anywhere to turn to get legitimate, honest, fact based answers. And you’re providing that right now, Bud, for a world of listeners. And on behalf of everyone tuning in, I just want to thank you so much for your time.
BB: Thank you Dwayne.
D: Keep up the good work. And we’ll talk to you again tomorrow morning.
BB: Take care.