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Post by scorpion1031 on Jul 13, 2007 10:37:30 GMT -4
I have been away on vacation so this is an old issue, but I just read a private message from a member that kind of jolted me. i will not divulge the members name because it was a private message. This all stemmed from a comment I made about Ines and acca being in cahoots in order to raise room profit or rent at the very least, and how I was disappointed in the millionairs room for banning me. keep in mind that this was my opinion. Was it inflammatory? hell ya. Anyways another member chastised me through PM and i think it is important that i post my response as it pertains to the difference between reasonable debate and evil intent. here was my response:
If the truth is offensive then you have a point. If you believe that Ines doesn't use acca to get room rent then I have offended you, but that is the truth never the less.
Acca and Ines comes in spreading lie after lie and no one has the guts to call that offensive.....Thats what offends me. I guess we are even.
What is your personal number of being lied to? 10 times...20, 30?
Reasonable debate is one thing, but when the debaters don't even believe their own banter and lies for effect, then it borders on evil. And when a board decides that their is no difference between reasonable debate and the latter action, then they are a supporter of evil by proxy.
Now with that in mind, why am I banned while Ines and acca have free reign? Oh I see....Because they lie respectfully....while I state truth aggressively.
Sad.
Scorpion
Now in all fairness I should have stated my belief of what is transpiring between Acca and Ines as an opinion(which it is), but its as close to a fact in my mind as anything. The main point is this: One can always spread evil under the guise of respect....Does this really out weight an aggressive truth? If this was only the second or third time a lie has been perpetrated on shareholders this post may not of held its own weight, but under the circumstances of dozens of maliciously planned and executed falsehoods against innocent shareholders this post should have enough weight to sink a battleship.
the argument that all one has to do is ignore posts you don't like is a dangerous proposition. Think of it this way...if a teacher at your son or daughters school was known to be having a inappropriate relationship with a student would you say or think "Hey, its not my daughter so lets just ignore it" Or are you of the mind that evil should and always be countered with the truth?
In closing i would have you remember this: Sometime knowing what the truth is, is not as important as knowing where the lie is.
We don't know the full truth, but by now we should all know where the lies are coming from.
Respectfully,
Scorpion
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Post by granny2shoes on Jul 13, 2007 10:47:10 GMT -4
Yes there are a LOT of people out there spreading lies and the sad part is some people actually believe them, even after years of not telling the truth, that shows me that there area lot of weak peole who are looking for someone to tell them exactly what they want to hear, and there are a lot who will do just that, people need to wake up and see that the DHL truck hasnt arrived yet and probably wont and the packets that were to be mailed out weeks ago havent arrived yet and every fri. has come and gone several times, jmo, granny
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Post by spaz on Jul 13, 2007 11:45:51 GMT -4
Scorp,
IMO, I don't think you're too far from the truth. I wouldn't doubt that ines is generating under the table revenue off of acca pumping. Perhaps she's profit sharing, lol. I see that she is a mini-mod on millionaires so it doesn't surprise me that you got banned. I think it goes a lot deeper than some parasitic profit motive, I've always felt acca worked for the dark side, he is their minion of mind control. All IMO
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Post by Carats4me on Jul 13, 2007 11:58:19 GMT -4
Scorpion, you dont need to apologize, since IMO you are right on target.
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Post by Decubiti on Jul 13, 2007 12:11:22 GMT -4
Ines is in cohoots with Delidog and the Europeons also. She is a piss poor human being.
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 13, 2007 13:08:19 GMT -4
One really sad thing about this whole thing is that some of the very people whose posts helped people make the decision to buy have now turned. What gets me is how they can condemn those who followed them. These people always knew someone they had spoken with who said this or that. They were only too happy to "share" the "good" news. What has happened to make you turn? To whom have you been speaking that you now have the scoop?
How can you go from your mind made up that this is "good" to now it "stinks"? As far as I am concerned I need concrete info and it better be set in that stone before I convict my so called "friends". Therefore I am still in the jury box waiting for something other than "opinions". Until BF and KW give me something in black and white, legal black and white, that is, I will await the outcome of this.
Please don't say they have filed suit............................That does not mean anything in this country as you can file on anyone for anything..................................All you need is an attorney willing to take the case..........................It's luck for us that JM had BF in his pocket, isn't it?
I am not going to argue with anyone over what I have posted so tear it to pieces if you want. I don't normally even post anything of consequence and LOL you are thinking, well I've stayed true to form...LOL
My hope/wishes/thoughts/prayers are for this to turn out well for all of us. Otherwise I wasted my money...Oh wait, I can take a loss and leave the boards and go on, can't I? Makes one wonder why a lot of people haven't already done that rather than keep posting....HUH?? I already have a saviour, Jesus Christ, so I don't need anyone trying to usurp his position. Thank you anyway..............................
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 13, 2007 13:15:58 GMT -4
One last thought.....................I find it rather ironic that so many who talked/convinced so many of their family and friends to invest in this stock, now seem to be so devoted to helping/assisting virtual strangers to "see" the light........................
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Post by mineralsrus on Jul 13, 2007 13:16:24 GMT -4
One really sad thing about this whole thing is that some of the very people whose posts helped people make the decision to buy have now turned. What gets me is how they can condemn those who followed them. These people always knew someone they had spoken with who said this or that. They were only too happy to "share" the "good" news. What has happened to make you turn? To whom have you been speaking that you now have the scoop? How can you go from your mind made up that this is "good" to now it "stinks"? As far as I am concerned I need concrete info and it better be set in that stone before I convict my so called "friends". Therefore I am still in the jury box waiting for something other than "opinions". Until BF and KW give me something in black and white, legal black and white, that is, I will await the outcome of this. Please don't say they have filed suit............................That does not mean anything in this country as you can file on anyone for anything..................................All you need is an attorney willing to take the case..........................It's luck for us that JM had BF in his pocket, isn't it? I am not going to argue with anyone over what I have posted so tear it to pieces if you want. I don't normally even post anything of consequence and LOL you are thinking, well I've stayed true to form...LOL My hope/wishes/thoughts/prayers are for this to turn out well for all of us. Otherwise I wasted my money...Oh wait, I can take a loss and leave the boards and go on, can't I? Makes one wonder why a lot of people haven't already done that rather than keep posting....HUH?? I already have a saviour, Jesus Christ, so I don't need anyone trying to usurp his position. Thank you anyway.............................. Good post! I think our convictions keep us attached to this stock and the message boards. This isn't over by a long shot...UC will pay and so will the early pumpers. They know who they are.
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Post by mineralsrus on Jul 13, 2007 13:20:10 GMT -4
One last thought.....................I find it rather ironic that so many who talked/convinced so many of their family and friends to invest in this stock, now seem to be so devoted to helping/assisting virtual strangers to "see" the light........................ I am the only one in my family who invested in this POS stock. I had enough sense not to involve my family members. I have a few co-workers who invested in it though, but I offered double their money back after revocation, but they refused to take my offer. I even played it off like I wanted their stock. I feel aweful that they invested in this POS.
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Post by Decubiti on Jul 13, 2007 14:31:06 GMT -4
One really sad thing about this whole thing is that some of the very people whose posts helped people make the decision to buy have now turned. What gets me is how they can condemn those who followed them. These people always knew someone they had spoken with who said this or that. They were only too happy to "share" the "good" news. What has happened to make you turn? To whom have you been speaking that you now have the scoop? How can you go from your mind made up that this is "good" to now it "stinks"? As far as I am concerned I need concrete info and it better be set in that stone before I convict my so called "friends". Therefore I am still in the jury box waiting for something other than "opinions". Until BF and KW give me something in black and white, legal black and white, that is, I will await the outcome of this. Please don't say they have filed suit............................That does not mean anything in this country as you can file on anyone for anything..................................All you need is an attorney willing to take the case..........................It's luck for us that JM had BF in his pocket, isn't it? I am not going to argue with anyone over what I have posted so tear it to pieces if you want. I don't normally even post anything of consequence and LOL you are thinking, well I've stayed true to form...LOL My hope/wishes/thoughts/prayers are for this to turn out well for all of us. Otherwise I wasted my money...Oh wait, I can take a loss and leave the boards and go on, can't I? Makes one wonder why a lot of people haven't already done that rather than keep posting....HUH?? I already have a saviour, Jesus Christ, so I don't need anyone trying to usurp his position. Thank you anyway.............................. If you still think something good will come of CMKX, you can't be saved. I stick around because its like a soap opera. Reading stupid messages from stupid people is entertaining.
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Post by tenbeers on Jul 13, 2007 15:36:27 GMT -4
Yes there are a LOT of people out there spreading lies and the sad part is some people actually believe them, even after years of not telling the truth, that shows me that there area lot of weak peole who are looking for someone to tell them exactly what they want to hear, and there are a lot who will do just that, people need to wake up and see that the DHL truck hasnt arrived yet and probably wont and the packets that were to be mailed out weeks ago havent arrived yet and every fri. has come and gone several times, jmo, granny Why does this surprise you? Just look at the Presidential Candidates over the years. They spread their campaign promises(what you want to hear, lies, etc) people keep on believing them and vote for them and wonder why nothing gets better.
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Post by kranker on Jul 15, 2007 11:07:16 GMT -4
One really sad thing about this whole thing is that some of the very people whose posts helped people make the decision to buy have now turned. What gets me is how they can condemn those who followed them. These people always knew someone they had spoken with who said this or that. They were only too happy to "share" the "good" news. What has happened to make you turn? To whom have you been speaking that you now have the scoop? How can you go from your mind made up that this is "good" to now it "stinks"? As far as I am concerned I need concrete info and it better be set in that stone before I convict my so called "friends". Therefore I am still in the jury box waiting for something other than "opinions". Until BF and KW give me something in black and white, legal black and white, that is, I will await the outcome of this. Please don't say they have filed suit............................That does not mean anything in this country as you can file on anyone for anything..................................All you need is an attorney willing to take the case..........................It's luck for us that JM had BF in his pocket, isn't it? I am not going to argue with anyone over what I have posted so tear it to pieces if you want. I don't normally even post anything of consequence and LOL you are thinking, well I've stayed true to form...LOL My hope/wishes/thoughts/prayers are for this to turn out well for all of us. Otherwise I wasted my money...Oh wait, I can take a loss and leave the boards and go on, can't I? Makes one wonder why a lot of people haven't already done that rather than keep posting....HUH?? I already have a saviour, Jesus Christ, so I don't need anyone trying to usurp his position. Thank you anyway.............................. If you still think something good will come of CMKX, you can't be saved. I stick around because its like a soap opera. Reading stupid messages from stupid people is entertaining. decubiti, are you calling soonerlew stupid, or did I misinterpret because I am stupid?
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Post by jannikki on Jul 15, 2007 11:45:49 GMT -4
One last thought.....................I find it rather ironic that so many who talked/convinced so many of their family and friends to invest in this stock, now seem to be so devoted to helping/assisting virtual strangers to "see" the light........................ soonerlew, I did NOT share anything about this investment with my family members. Why? Because I figured it was a risk, one that I was willing to take. I did not want to feel responsible if this turned out badly. I thought if the outcome was as good as I had hoped for, my investment would yield plenty for all of us. As for trying to assist or save virtual strangers, I could care less what others think. They are entitled to their opinions just as I am entitled to my own. What really bothers me is when people lie or take great strides to cast suspicion on the only people who appear to be working on behalf of the shareholders. I invested my time and money in this company along with thousands of others. I feel I have a right to question the intentions of a few people who find nothing but fault with new management. In my mind it just doesn't make sense. Why would any shareholder attempt to scrutinize or criticize what Bill and Kevin are trying to do? If these people have proof that the ongoing effort is not in the best interest of the shareholders, all I ask is that they provide the same fact-based proof that Bill and Kevin have taken the time to post on the company website. I won't listen to people who have lied for years, while saying their presence is for our benefit. It doesn't make sense for anyone to believe an individual was hired by a company official for the purpose of lying to us continually and deliberately when the only things it accomplishes is division and anger. Regardless of my personal opinion, you are still entitled to your own.....and I will respect it .
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Post by midget on Jul 15, 2007 13:03:49 GMT -4
One last thought.....................I find it rather ironic that so many who talked/convinced so many of their family and friends to invest in this stock, now seem to be so devoted to helping/assisting virtual strangers to "see" the light........................ AWHHHH Girlfriend Even the apostle Paul changed his mind, and tried to spread the light. I don't feel that we are all wrong about spreading the truth as we see it now. Midget
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Post by icanoe1 on Jul 15, 2007 17:36:33 GMT -4
Reading stupid messages from stupid people is entertaining. you will have a hoot n good time reading your autobiography then I'm sure. canoe
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